<h3> CHAPTER XX <br/><br/> A TALK WITH COUNT BISMARCK IN 1866 </h3>
<p class="t3b">
I</p>
<p>By one of those pieces of good fortune which
descend only upon the undeserving, I came
to know Count Bismarck before I left Berlin. I
was advised to present my letter at the Landtag,
and as the Count was said to be in the House, I
sent it in. He came out to the ante-chamber where
I was waiting, and there for the first time I looked
into the pale blue eyes whence had flashed the
lightnings that had riven the power of Austria
on the field of Sadowa. Now they had a kindly
and welcoming look in them. But, said Count
Bismarck:</p>
<p>"I have not a moment. A debate is on, and I
am to speak at once. Come to my house in the
Wilhelmstrasse at half-past ten to-night, and we
can have a talk. Meantime you might like to
hear the debate."</p>
<p>And he called to an official to take me into the
Chamber, shook hands again, and away he went.
I heard his speech, marvelled at the sight of a
Parliamentary chief in full military uniform;
marvelled at the tone of authority, which also was
<span class="pagenum">{<SPAN id="P179"></SPAN>179}</span>
military; marvelled again at the brevity and
directness of the orator who took no thought of
rhetoric and hardly cared to convince, but rather
to command. It was the oratory of the master
of many legends. True, the four years' conflict
between him and the Prussian Parliament was
over, but true also that on both Parliament and
Minister that conflict had left a mark. In his
voice there was still a challenge, and in the silence
of the Chamber still something sullen. He had
won. They had lost in a struggle upon which,
as Herr Loewe told me, they ought never to have
entered; would never have entered had they known.
Loewe and his party of so-called Liberals confessed
themselves not only beaten but wholly in the
wrong.</p>
<p>At half-past ten I rang at the outer door—which
was more like a gate—of the palace in the
Wilhelmstrasse. It was opened by a soldier who
asked my name, and when he heard it told me
I was expected and asked me to follow him. I
was taken upstairs to a large empty room on the
first floor. In a moment out came Count
Bismarck's famous <i>adlatus</i>, Herr Lothar Bücher.
The Count was engaged with the Minister of War
but if I could wait would see me presently. I
waited ten minutes. Again the door to the left
opened, and forth came Von Roon, the mighty
organizer of war, himself of course a soldier since
in Prussia everybody who counted in affairs of
State was a soldier, and still is. You had need
to visit Berlin in those warlike days to understand
<span class="pagenum">{<SPAN id="P180"></SPAN>180}</span>
what was meant by the phrase that Prussia was a
camp. Then you had need to visit it again in
time of peace to understand that whether in peace
or war Prussia was still a camp, and as much in
peace as in war. What it is now I cannot say.
I have not been in Berlin these last fifteen years,
but between 1866 and 1893 I was there many times,
and every time it was a camp. The garrison of
Berlin and Potsdam was never, I think, less than
40,000 men. The streets of Berlin were always
thronged with officers, and on the broad
sidewalks of the Unter den Linden or the
Friedrichstrasse there was scarce room for anybody else.
The youngest lieutenant wanted all of it to
himself. To each other these officers were civility
itself but the civilian had no rights they were
bound to respect.</p>
<p>I had already seen something of this all-pervading
military spirit and military supremacy,
and sat reflecting on it in this great <i>salon</i> where
I waited for Count Bismarck to be at leisure.
When Herr von Roon came out he recognized me,
I suppose, as a stranger, and, civilian though I
was, gave me the greeting he thought due to
Count Bismarck's guest, which I returned. There
was almost a halt as he strode past; his face was
turned to me, and I could read in it the stern
record of a long conflict; of vast responsibilities
and years of unceasing toil; a rugged face enough
but the light of victory in his eye. He, too, had
fought and won. Curiously enough, among the
men I met at that time in Berlin, the man who,
<span class="pagenum">{<SPAN id="P181"></SPAN>181}</span>
Bismarck excepted, seemed to have most of
the statesman in him, with the statesman's
civic virtues and traits, was this Minister of War.
Not because he was Minister in the sense in
which an English Secretary of State for War is
Minister. The English War Minister is never a
soldier; he is a Parliamentary chief, and his
authority over the army denotes the supremacy
of Parliament over the whole military hierarchy
from commander-in-chief down to the drummer
boy.</p>
<p>But of Parliamentary supremacy there had
been for these last four years in Prussia none
whatever. The Minister of War was not responsible
to Parliament; he never has been; he is not
now. He was then responsible to the King of
Prussia, as he is now to the German Emperor.
When, in May, 1863, the Chamber protested to
the King that the attitude of the Ministry to
Parliament was arbitrary and unconstitutional
(as it was), the King made answer that the
Ministry possessed his confidence, and sent the
Parliament about its business. That is, he prorogued
Parliament, announced that he would govern for
the present without a Parliament; and as matters
did not mend and the Chamber again in December
refused to vote a war budget, the King dissolved
it. Parliamentary government existed at that
time in Prussia under the constitution, but in
name only.</p>
<p>These reflections were cut short by the reopening
of the door, and Count Bismarck entered.
<span class="pagenum">{<SPAN id="P182"></SPAN>182}</span>
Still in uniform, nor did I ever see him except in
uniform, whether in public or private, till I visited
him in his home at Friedrichsruh in 1893, where
he wore a black frock-coat and black trousers,
crowned, when he went out, by a soft, broad-brimmed
grey felt hat, quite shapeless. He had,
more than any man I ever met, the manner of the
<i>grand seigneur</i>, in which distinction of bearing
and a grave, even gentle, courtesy went together.
He was sorry, he said, to have kept me waiting,
"but the business of the State, you know, comes
first, and though one crisis is over another
succeeds, and we know not yet what the end is to
be." This I understood to refer not to Austria, for the
Treaty of Prague had been signed in August, but
to France, where the Emperor was brooding over
his lost prestige and lost hold on Southern
Germany, and was meditating demands which might
compensate him for the loss of the power of meddling
with matters which were none of his business.</p>
<p>As he said this we walked into his private room,
or cabinet, the very centre of the spider's web;
a comfortable, plain, workmanlike little room;
a writing-desk the chief piece of furniture, large
enough to fill the whole of the further corner; a
sideboard opposite, a small table with ash trays,
a few chairs, and that was all. The curtains were
drawn; the room, German fashion, seemed a
trifle close, and as if old Frederick William's
Tobacco Parliament had been held here all these
last hundred and fifty years or more. There
was a rug in the centre which had to do duty for
<span class="pagenum">{<SPAN id="P183"></SPAN>183}</span>
the carpet which in Germany, as elsewhere on the
Continent, never covers the whole floor.</p>
<p>As we were sitting down, the Count behind his
desk, a door opened, opposite to the one by which
we had entered, and there appeared a lady whom
I had never seen; the Countess Bismarck. When
she saw me she said to her husband:</p>
<p>"You have not been in bed for three nights.
I hope you don't mean to sit up again."</p>
<p>Of course I rose, saying, "At any rate, he shall
not sit up for me." But the Count laughed, came
out from behind his desk, took me by the shoulders,
thrust me down into the chair again, all with
an air of kindly authority not easy to describe,
and said:</p>
<p>"Sit where you are. I want to talk to you."</p>
<p>As I thought it over afterward I supposed
Count Bismarck had some object in mind other
than the pleasure of my conversation. He knew
that I was the representative of <i>The Tribune</i>; my
letter to him had stated that. He knew what the
position and power of <i>The Tribune</i> were, and
especially of its influence with the Germans in
America. And it seemed to me that, in view of
the relations between the Germans at home and
the Germans beyond the seas, he thought it might
be worth while that his view of the situation
should be put before the Germans in America,
and before the Americans also, in an authentic
though not an authoritative way. Count
Bismarck did not say that. It was my conjecture,
<span class="pagenum">{<SPAN id="P184"></SPAN>184}</span>
upon which I acted to a certain extent as I will
explain more fully by and by.</p>
<p>Countess Bismarck looked on at this performance
which she plainly did not like, but presently
smiled and said to her husband: "Well, if you
will sit up you must have something to drink,"
went to the sideboard, mixed a brandy and soda,
took it to him, put the glass to his lips, and stood
by him to see that he drank the whole, which he
did with no visible reluctance. He handed the
empty tumbler to his wife and thanked her. She
put her arm about him, kissed him, looked at
me reproachfully but amiably, and vanished. A
truly domestic, truly German, altogether charming
little scene.</p>
<p>Many years later, after Count Bismarck had
become Prince Bismarck and a greater figure in
Germany than the world had seen, I met Princess
Bismarck again at a dinner in Homburg given
by Mr. William Walter Phelps, American Minister
at Berlin. Mr. Phelps had long been a friend of
the Bismarck family and on easy terms with the
head of that family, who liked and respected him.
It was a case of sympathy between opposites.
No contrast could be more complete than the
contrast between Prince Bismarck and Mr. Phelps;
but their relations were, as so often happens, all
the more friendly for that reason. I was presented
to the Princess, and after dinner inquired whether
she remembered this midnight incident in the
Wilhelmstrasse. She asked me to describe it, and
I told her what had happened. She had wholly
<span class="pagenum">{<SPAN id="P185"></SPAN>185}</span>
forgotten it. I asked her if I might some day
narrate the story. "I don't see why you shouldn't,"
she answered. Years after that I again saw
the Princess at Friedrichsruh, and she asked
whether I had ever repeated my tale. I said
no, but that I still meant to avail myself of her
permission, as I now do.</p>
<p>The Princess thought, I imagine, she would like
to see the Prince portrayed in this intimate way
and in this relation to his wife. Her life had
always been lived in and for his. She knew well
what the world thought; to the world he was always
the Iron Chancellor. But in private life he was
the affectionate loyal husband to whom one woman
had devoted all she had—all her love, truth,
worship—an adoration which perhaps not many men
have deserved or received from any woman.</p>
<p>There is much in Bismarck's <i>Love Letters</i>—which
are hardly love letters—about his wife and
much in other Bismarck books, notably in Sidney
Whitman's <i>Personal Reminiscences</i>, the best of
them all. The Princess will ever live as an amiable
figure, and if she had not been that would still
live as the wife of the one great German of his
time; as the woman who had known how to
captivate a fancy once supposed to be wayward,
and to make it and him her own. The quality
which distinguished her was sweetness or nature,
which she never lost during a life harassed by
many solicitudes and vexed by illness.</p>
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<p><span class="pagenum">{<SPAN id="P186"></SPAN>186}</span></p>
<p class="t3b">
II</p>
<p>The Countess von Bismarck having departed
out of the little room, the King's Minister plunged
at once into his subject, which was nothing less
than the history of the last four years during
which he had ruled over Prussia. Much of what
he said I repeated in <i>The Tribune</i> no very long
time after. All that he said, or all that I could
remember, I put down in writing that night before
I slept. It contained, however, so much that
obviously was not meant for print and could never
be printed that, after using as much as I thought
could properly be published, I destroyed my
manuscript. I had said to Count Bismarck as I left
that he knew he had been talking to a journalist
and yet had said many things he could not
wish made known to the public. He laughed
and answered: "Well, it is your business to
distinguish."</p>
<p>It is, therefore, still my business to distinguish.
I may perhaps say a little more than I could while
both the Emperor and the Prince were alive, but
not much. For, in truth, I have never quite
understood why confidences cease to be confidences
because those who imparted them or those whom
they concern are dead. A man who quits this
world leaves his reputation, if he has any, behind
him. Indiscretions may affect his memory as they
might have affected his living fame. In this case
they would exalt Count Bismarck's fame; but
it might be at the expense of others whom he had
<span class="pagenum">{<SPAN id="P187"></SPAN>187}</span>
no desire to belittle. So I keep for the most part
to generalities.</p>
<p>Of the King he spoke with astonishing freedom,
yet never a word to injure the sovereign whom
he served. I will quote once more a sentence I
have repeated before now:</p>
<p>"You are a Republican, and you cannot fully
understand the loyalty I cherish to a King to
whose ancestors my ancestors have been loyal
for hundreds of years."</p>
<p>Yet it comes to this—and of this truth History
has long since taken account—that between
Count Bismarck and his august master there was
a long-continuing conflict. If the King had won
there would have been no Austro-Prussian War,
nor any Franco-German War, nor any German
Confederation, nor any Germany as we know
Germany to-day. When, therefore, the present
German Emperor puts forward his grandfather
as the author of these changes, he is making for
his grandfather a false claim. While he was still
Prince William of Prussia he said:</p>
<p>"Whenever I hear a great event in my grandfather's
reign discussed I never hear his name
mentioned, but always Bismarck's. When I come
to the throne it is my name you will hear as
the author of the policies and deeds of my
reign."</p>
<p>William the Second has kept that pledge, but
that is no reason why he should try to rewrite the
history of his grandfather's time or to rob Prince
Bismarck of the renown which belongs to him and
<span class="pagenum">{<SPAN id="P188"></SPAN>188}</span>
which the world awards him. Powerful as he is,
he is not powerful enough for that.</p>
<p>This is a digression, but it will serve to bring
out the main fact that there was a contest between
the King and Bismarck in 1866, and that not the
King but Bismarck came out triumphant. In
the long war with Parliament the King and his
Minister were together, and the King was as
loyal to his Minister as the Minister was to the
King. But when the critical moment came it
still has to be said that Bismarck's was the
seeing eye and the deciding voice, and his, not the
King's, was the directing mind.</p>
<p>Over the heads of the Parliament and people
of Prussia, and against the wish of the King, who
only at the last moment and by one last argument
had been persuaded to consent, did Bismarck
pursue his way.</p>
<p>"It was not," said Bismarck, "till I had
convinced the King that his honour as a soldier was
involved that he would agree to the war with
Austria. No political argument moved him. The
vision of a united Germany with himself at the
head of a German Confederation did not dazzle him.</p>
<p>"'Austria is my brother,' he said; 'the war
would be fratricidal. The Emperor and I are
bound together by many ties, by many interests;
above all by affection and by loyalty. I should
think it treacherous to attack a sovereign who
has given me many proofs of good-will and to
I have given pledges. Nothing will induce
to do it.'"</p>
<p><span class="pagenum">{<SPAN id="P189"></SPAN>189}</span></p>
<p>"Yet," continued Bismarck, "he had allowed
me to take step after step, each one of which led
inevitably to war. In the long conflict with the
Parliament he was with me. Only by his support
was that conflict maintained or victory possible.
No money was voted for four years. We laid
hands on the public revenues, but the Government
had to be carried on in part by money supplied
out of that Royal Treasure Fund which for generations
the Kings of Prussia have hoarded for kingly
purposes. The preparations for war were
nourished from the same source. The war with
Denmark was paid for to a certain extent out of the
same royal purse. The Landtag never assented
to the Schleswig-Holstein enterprise nor would
vote a solitary thaler to carry it on. Before that,
when I became Minister, in September, 1862, my
first act was to announce to the Chamber that
I proposed to govern without a budget. The
Chamber protested against that as unconstitutional,
which of course it was. Six months later
the Chamber invited the King to dismiss his
Ministers. He replied that his Ministers had his
confidence, and a week later instead of dismissing
us announced that he proposed to govern without
a Parliament.</p>
<p>"All this time I was preparing for war with
Austria after Denmark. The King must have
known what it all meant, but he did not stay his
hand nor withdraw his confidence from us. After
the peace with Denmark there was no longer any
reason for military preparations except Austria.
<span class="pagenum">{<SPAN id="P190"></SPAN>190}</span>
But the King still allowed me to go on. In
January, 1865, the Parliament again rejected the
public budget. The King rejoined by seizing on
the public revenues in the name of the State. The
public knew nothing of what I had in mind. The
Parliament knew nothing. If it had been possible
to take Parliament into my confidence the budget
would have been voted. The Liberals have
admitted that. But to take Parliament into my
confidence would have been to take Austria into
my confidence. It could not be. It was necessary
to strike suddenly; to strike before Austria could
assemble her reserves, or take advantage of her
immense resources, or bring into line all the
discordant races of that great Empire.</p>
<p>"How much did I tell the King? Well, as much
as was necessary for the time being. The great
struggle with His Majesty was put off till the
moment of conflict was near; till it was necessary
to throw off the mask. Besides, you must
consider that I had to deal not only with the King
but with the various Court influences which
surrounded him. They were almost all hostile to me.
Many of them were very powerful with the King.
I might spend six weeks in coaxing him to assent
to a particular measure. When he had promised,
in would come some Grand Duchess and in half
an hour undo my six weeks' work."</p>
<p>I interrupt the flow of this speech to remark
that, long after this, Prince Bismarck repeated to
the same complaint about grand ducal interventions.
They never ceased. They were never
<span class="pagenum">{<SPAN id="P191"></SPAN>191}</span>
relaxed. There was no conciliating these great
personages. They had policies and purposes of
their own, which were never those of Germany
but always of some German principality with
which their personal interests were bound up.
There is nothing so selfish as a second-class
Royalty; a Serenity with a dukedom which a
pocket-handkerchief would cover.</p>
<p>Bismarck continued:</p>
<p>"In the end Austria played my game for me.
She demanded in April, 1866, the demobilization
of the Prussian forces, which had begun to put
themselves on a war footing in March. Then I
knew the Lord had delivered her into our hands.
I laid the demand before the King, saying: 'I do
not know whether Your Majesty is prepared to
surrender the command of your army to your
brother of Austria.' He took fire at once. Then
it was that he felt his honour as a soldier was
attacked. From that moment the difficulty was to
restrain him. We were not quite ready. It would
have been dangerous to declare war at once. It
was dangerous, perhaps, to let the moment of the
King's anger pass, lest counsels of peace should
again prevail. But one risk or the other had to be
taken, and I chose the latter. Two months later,
June 18th, war was declared, and the King issued
a manifesto to his people which was everything
that could be wished. All the rest was in the
hands of the God of Battles."</p>
<p>Then a pause and a piercing glance, then on he
went:</p>
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<p>"After Königgrätz there were the same difficulties.
The King could not at first understand
why this career of victory was to be interrupted.
He was King no longer. He was Field Marshal,
commanding the forces of Prussia. He had won
a great battle. The power of Austria was broken.
Vienna lay at his mercy. Germany was waiting
to know whether Austria or Prussia was to be her
future master—well, no, not master, but which of
the two was to be the chief State in Germany
and the true leader of the German people. What
other sign of supremacy could be so visible, so
convincing, as the Prussian armies in Vienna,
Prussian troops encamped in the Prater, the
Danube bridled and bridged by us Prussians?
When an enemy's capital lay at the victor's
mercy, why should he not enter it? What great
soldier ever refrained?</p>
<p>"Thus," said Bismarck, "spoke the King. I
ventured to remind His Majesty of his reluctance
to make war on the Emperor of Austria, and to
ask whether, now that he was vanquished, he
wished him to be humiliated also. That seemed
to touch him. We talked long. He was
surrounded by generals and princes who urged him
on, but in the end he came round to my view which
had been his own view before the war. So here
we are in Berlin and not in Vienna, and please God
we shall all be friends again, and some day there
will be one Germany and not two, or twenty, or
fifty, as in times past and to-day. The fruits of
our triumph are yet to gather."</p>
<p><span class="pagenum">{<SPAN id="P193"></SPAN>193}</span></p>
<p>Twice during this discourse I had risen to go,
but Bismarck said: "No, I have not finished." The
third time, it was long past one o'clock, and I
said: "If I don't go now Countess Bismarck will
never let me see you again." This amused him,
and he remarked: "I suppose you think I am
getting sleepy!" But sleepy he was not. He
had talked for near two hours with unquenchable
energy and freshness, and with a force of speech
in which no man was his rival.</p>
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