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<tr><td align='left'>N.C. District:</td><td align='left'>No. 2</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Worker:</td><td align='left'>T. Pat Matthews</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>No. Words:</td><td align='left'>2036</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Subject:</td><td align='left'>PARKER POOL</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Person Interviewed:</td><td align='left'>Parker Pool</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Editor:</td><td align='left'>Daisy Bailey Waitt</td></tr>
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<p><span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_184" id="Page_184">[Pg 184]</SPAN></span></p>
<h2>PARKER POOL</h2>
<p>"Good Morning, how is yer? Dat front door am locked
Mister, but I'll come 'round and undo it."</p>
<p>"I'm not feeling ve'y well an' it looks lak dey'll
rob me out'n all I got. Dey had a mortgage on my home fer
$850. I paid it, an' den dey got to gamblin' on it, an' tuk
it. I didn't git de right receipts, when I paid: dat's de
truf. I got a farm loan on de house part, yes sir, an' I
still has it.</p>
<p>"I wuz born near Garner, Wake County, North Carolina.
I belonged to Aufy Pool. He wuz a slave owner. His plantation
wuz near Garner. I am 91 years old. I wuz born
August 10, that's what my grandmammie tole me, an' I ain't
never fergot it.</p>
<p>"My missus name wuz Betsy. My fust master, I had
two, wuz Master Aufy Pool. Den he give us to his son, er
his son bought us in at de sale when Master Aufy died.
After Master Aufy died, his son, Louis Pool wuz my master
den, an' his plantation wuz in Johnston County. My mother
wuz named Violet Pool. She died in child-birth two years
atter I wuz born. My father wuz named Peter Turner. He
belonged to John Turner in Johnston County, right near<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_185" id="Page_185">[Pg 185]</SPAN></span>
Clayton.</p>
<p>"My grandfather, I had two grandfathers, one on my
mother's side and one on my father's side. On my mother's
side Tom Pool, on my father's side Jerry Beddingfield. I
never seed my great-grandparents, but my great-grandfather
wuz name Buck. He wuz right out o' Africa. His wife wuz
name Hagar. I never have seen dem, but my grandmother wuz
deir daughter. Dey had three chillun here in America. My
grandmammie and grandfather told me this. My brothers were
name, oldest one, Haywood, den Lem, an' Peter, an' me,
Parker Pool. De girls, oldest girl wuz Minerva Rilla.</p>
<p>"I had good owners. My missus and master dey took
jes as good keer o' me as they could. Dey wuz good to all
de han's. Dey giv' us plenty to eat, an' we had plenty o'
clothes, sich as they wuz, but de wuz no sich clothes as we
have now. Dey treated us good, I will have to say dat.
Dey are dead in their graves, but I will have to say dis
fer 'em. Our houses were in de grove. We called master's
house 'de great house'. We called our homes 'de houses'. We
had good places ter sleep.</p>
<p>"We got up at light. I had to do most o' the nursin'
o' de chillun, case when choppin' time come de women had to
go to work. We had plenty ter eat, an' we et it. Our
some'in to eat wuz well fixed an' cooked. We caught a lot
o' 'possums, coons an' other game, but I tell yer a coon is
a lot harder to ketch den a possum. We had one garden, an'<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_186" id="Page_186">[Pg 186]</SPAN></span>
de colored people tended the garden, an' we all et out'n
it.</p>
<p>"Dere wuz about 2000 acres in de plantation. All
de farm lan' wuz fenced in wid wood rails. De hogs, cows
an' stock wuz turned out in de woods, an' let go. The
cows wuz drived home at night, dat is if dey didn't come
up. Dat is so we could milk de ones we wanted ter milk.</p>
<p>"We dug ditches to drain de lan', blin' ditches;
we dug 'em an' den put poles on top, an' covered 'em wid
brush an' dirt. We put de brush on de poles to keep de
dirt from runnin' through. Den we ploughed over de ditches.</p>
<p>"We tanned our leather in a tan trough. We used
white oak bark an' red oak bark. Dey put copperas in it
too, I think.</p>
<p>"I knows how to raise flax. You grow it an' when it
is grown you pull it clean up out of de groun' till it
kinder rots. Dey have what dey called a brake, den it
wuz broke up in dat. De bark wuz de flax. Dey had a stick
called a swingle stick, made kinder like a sword. Dey used
dis to knock de sticks out o' de flax. Dey would den put
de flax on a hackle, a board wid a lot of pegs in it. Den
dey clean an' string it out till it looks lak your hair.
Dey flax when it came from de hackles wuz ready for de
wheel whur it wuz spun into thread. I tell you, you couldn't<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_187" id="Page_187">[Pg 187]</SPAN></span>
break it either.</p>
<p>"When it wuz spun into thread dey put it on a reel.
It turned 100 times and struck, when it struck it wuz
called a cut. When it come from de wheel it wuz called
a broach. De cuts stood fer so much flax. So many cuts
made a yard, but dere wuz more ter do, size it, and
hank it before it wuz weaved. Most of the white people
had flax clothes.</p>
<p>"We had no church on de plantation. We had prayer
meetin' an' candy pullin's, an' we would ask slaves from
udder plantations. My master had no public corn shuckin's.
His slaves shucked his corn. He had about 50 head. De
slaves dey went to de white folks church. Dey had a
place separate from de white folks by a railin'. We could
look at de preacher an' hear him preach too.</p>
<p>"No, sirree, dey wouldn't let us have no books. Dey
would not let none o' de chilluns tell us anything about
a book. I cain't read an' write, not a bit. Dey preached
ter us to obey our master. Preacher John Ellington wuz
my favorite preacher. No nigger wuz allowed ter preach.
Dey wuz allowed ter pray and shout sometimes, but dey better
not be ketched wid a book. De songs dat dey sung den, dey
hardly ever sing 'em now. Dey were de good ole songs.
'Hark from de tomb de doleful sound'. 'My years are tender,'
'Cry, You livin' man,' 'Come view dis groun' where we must
shortly lie'.<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_188" id="Page_188">[Pg 188]</SPAN></span></p>
<p>"No one ran away from our plantation, but dey did from
some other plantations. When some o' de niggers were
carried by their masters to wait on 'em as servants up
no'th, some o' de other people would see how dey were treated
an' git 'em to run away. When dere master started home
dey couldn't find 'em. Dey took and educated 'em and made
women an' men out'en 'em.</p>
<p>"We visited at night during slavery time. De men
went courtin'. When a man, a slave, loved a 'oman on
another plantation dey axed der master, sometimes de
master would ax de other master. If dey agreed all de
slave man an' 'oman had ter de [HW: do] Sa'dy night wuz fer him to
come over an' dey would go to bed together. Dere wuz no
marriage—until atter de surrender. All who wanted to
keep de same 'oman atter de surrender had to pay 25¢ fer
er marriage license, den $1.50, den $3.00. If de magistrate
married you, you didn't have to pay anything, less he
charged you.</p>
<p>"We got de holidays, Christmas, and atter lay-by-time
o' de crops. Dey had big dinners den. Dey had big tables set
in de yard, de rations wuz spread on 'em, an' everybody et.
We had brandy at Christmas.</p>
<p>"I have been whupped twice, an' I have seen slaves
whupped. Ha! Ha! missus whupped me. She wouldn't let nobody<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_189" id="Page_189">[Pg 189]</SPAN></span>
else whup me neither. I 'members what it wuz about as
if it wuz yesterday. She wuz fretted 'bout de cook. We wuz
skinnin' i'sh taters. She tole us to make haste, if we didn't
make haste an' peel de taters she would whack us down. I
laughed, she sent me to git a switch. She hit me on de legs.
When we were whupped we would say, 'oh! pray,' and dey would
quit. If you acted stubborn dey would whup you more. She
axed me, 'ain't you gwine ter say 'oh! pray?' I wuz mad. She
wuz not hurtin' me much, an' I wouldn't say nuthin'. Atter
awhile I said, 'oh! pray', an' she quit. I had good owners
all o' dem. My masters never did hit me. Missus would not
whup me much. She jes wanted ter show off sometimes.</p>
<p>"We had good doctors when we got sick. I 'members
Dr. James o' Clayton comin' to our house. Dey carried dere
pills an' medicine den, an' lef' it at de house fer you.</p>
<p>"My master had a son in de war, Walter Pool. He
wuz a footso'dier at first. He got sick an' he come home sick
on er furlough. He hired er man to go in his place at first,
den de man went. Atter awhile de men got so skurce, he had
to go agin; den he got de chance to go in de cavalry. Ole
master bought him a horse, an' he could ride nex' time. He
belonged to the 1st. Ga. Reg. 2nd Cavalry Gen. Dange's Brigade,
C. Co. N.C. Volunteers.</p>
<p>"I saw de Confederates' General Johnson come through<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_190" id="Page_190">[Pg 190]</SPAN></span>
Clayton, an' de Yankees come de 2nd [HW: second] day atter dey come
through. I think I seed enough Yankees come through dere
to whup anything on God's earth. De Yankees camped three
miles from our plantation at Mrs. Widow Sarah Saunders
across White Oak Creek on de Averysboro road. Her son,
Capt. Ed. Saunders wuz in de Confederate Army. She wuz a
big slave owner. She had about 100 slaves. She wuz called
a rich 'oman.</p>
<p>"De Yankees played songs o' walkin' de streets of
Baltimore an' walkin' in Maryland. Dey really played it.
Dey slaughtered cows and sometimes only et de liver. I
went to de camp atter dey lef' an' it wuz de awfulest
stink I ever smelt in my life. Dey lef' dem cows part
o' 'em lying whur dey were in de camp. Dey killed geese
an' chickens, an' skinned 'em. Sometimes dey skinned de
hind quarters uv a cow, cut 'em off an' lef' de res'.</p>
<p>"When dey tole me I wuz free I didn't notice it, I
stayed on and worked jest lak I had been doin', right on
wid missus and master. I stayed dere a year atter de
surrender.</p>
<p>"I dunno what ter think o' Abraham Lincoln. Dey said
he wuz all right. I guess he wuz a man God loved, er
all right man. I think some o' de slaves wuz better off
when dey had owners and wuz in slavery den dey is now. De
colored people are slaves now more den dey wuz den. I can
show you wherein de nigger's got all his expenses ter bear
now. He gits his pay out'en de white man and de white
man don't pay him much. De nigger in de South is jest as<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_191" id="Page_191">[Pg 191]</SPAN></span>
much a slave as ever. De nigger now is a better slave
den when dey owned him, 'cause he has his own expenses to
bear. If you works a horse an' doan have him ter feed,
you is better off, dan if you had ter feed and care fer
him. Dat is de way dat thing is now.</p>
<p>"I seed many patterollers durin' slavery. If dey
caught you out at night without a pass dey would whup you.</p>
<p>"I think Mr. Roosevelt is a mighty nice man. He has
done me a lot o' good. No man can make times real good
till everybody is put to work. Wid de lan' lyin' out dere
can't be real good times. Dis is my 'lustration. My
horse died las' year. I ain't got no money ter buy nother
and can't git one. You see dat lan' lyin' out dere I
have farmed it every year fer a long time. Through
part o' de year I always had vegetables and sich ter
sell, but now my horse is dead an' I can't farm no more.
I ain't got nothin' ter sell. I is bad out o' heart.
I shore hope sumpin' will be done fer me."</p>
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