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<tr><td align='left'>N.C. District:</td><td align='left'>No. 2</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Worker:</td><td align='left'>T. Pat Matthews</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>No. Words:</td><td align='left'>755</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Subject:</td><td align='left'>REV. HANDY WILLIAMS</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Person Interviewed:</td><td align='left'> Rev. Handy Williams</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Editor:</td><td align='left'>Daisy Bailey Waitt</td></tr>
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<h2>REV. HANDY WILLIAMS</h2>
<h4>Dunn, North Carolina.<br/>
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<p>"My name is Handy H. Williams. When de war went up
I wus twelve years old, 12th of March. I belonged to
Blaney Williams, and his wife wus named Polly. My mother
wus named Margaret Williams, and my father wus named Sam
Williams. I do not remember my grandmother and grandfather;
can't remember 'em.</p>
<p>"My father lived in Greene County. De plantation wus
in Greene County. Dere were about 190 acres in de farm
and dere wus about 25 slaves on it.</p>
<p>"We lived in Greene County till the war went up. We
had plenty to eat, good clothes and a nice place to sleep.
Marster wus not good to us, but he gave us plenty to eat and
wear. He worked us from light till dark and then my mother
had to do house work after workin' in de fields all day, an'
father had to do de feedin' or pick cotton at night.</p>
<p>"We had no holidays. Prayer meetings were not
allowed in de quarters and a slave darsent to be caught
wid a book in his han'.</p>
<p>"De patterollers come by often an' dey caught and
whupped de slaves many times. Marster whupped slaves for
mos' anything. Sometimes he would get mad, an' whup us<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_387" id="Page_387">[Pg 387]</SPAN></span>
when he hardly had an excuse. Yes sir, he would get drunk
and whup somebody jest 'cause he was mad. Some of de slaves
run away. My Uncle Needham Williams run away. When he
come back he wus whupped an' then put up and sold. Aunt
Chaney, my mother's sister, wus put up and sold. She wus
sold away from her children. When de war went up, she come
back home. My Aunt Beadie wus sold on de block in Fayetteville.
I remember her well, but we have never heard
from her since. She never come back after the surrender.
God only knows what become o' her.</p>
<p>"When de war went up we went to Harnett County to
Mr. Jim Surles' place, about three miles from whur this
town now stands. Dunn wus not here then.</p>
<p>"We stayed there five years, and then moved to
Mingo in what is now Sampson County on the Louis Martin
Tew Place, and my father bought a place. The deed called
for 199 acres more or less. Dat's what de deed called for.
We paid for de place, but my father mortgaged de place.
He didn't lose it, cause it wus fixed so dat no one could
sell or mortgage it while any of de heirs wus livin'.
All are dead 'cept Pink Williams and myself, and de lan'
fell back to us. Mammy and daddy are both dead long time
ago, 'bout twenty-five years.</p>
<p>"Dey had overseers on marster's farm in Greene County<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_388" id="Page_388">[Pg 388]</SPAN></span>
and dey were mean to de slaves. I wus not big enough
to work much, but dey had me feedin' stock and helpin'
around de house.</p>
<p>"We children didn't play any games we wus afraid to
play around de white folks. Marster wus a rip snorter
and he would get you if you got in his way. He lived in
de great house not far distant from de quarters, but we
did not go dere unless we had to go dere to work.</p>
<p>"Yes sir, you know how children is when dey hear
wagins coomin', and a big crowd marchin' together. Yes
sir, I remember de Yankees. Dey rode dere horses against
de fences and tore em down. Dey comed in de yard and turned
over de bee gums. Dey shot de chickens. Dey would
say 'Dere he goes, shoot him, shoot him', and den de guns
would go 'bam, bam, bam, an' de chickens would fall dead'.
Dey shot de dogs in de yard. Course, to Heben, I am tellin'
de truth. Dey took de meat and destroyed mos' everything
at Marster's. After dey lef', if you could get a few beans
or peas dey wus mighty good. People et tater peelings
an' some come near starvin'.</p>
<p>"I wus mighty lucky an' what I got I got it from
de Southern white folks; dey been mighty good to me
since de war. I have worked for de town 'bout 35 years
and I work for it now. I ain't able to do much now, but<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_389" id="Page_389">[Pg 389]</SPAN></span>
I have a section of de Courthouse. I keeps it might clean.</p>
<p>"I know nothin' much bout de great men you ax me 'bout;
don't remember much about 'em. I think slavery wus a bad
thing, yes sir, I shore does."</p>
<p>LE</p>
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