<p>But this whole Dispute, whether Christ left the Jurisdiction to the Pope
onely, or to other Bishops also, if considered out of these places where
the Pope has the Civill Soveraignty, is a contention De Lana Caprina: For
none of them (where they are not Soveraigns) has any Jurisdiction at all.
For Jurisdiction is the Power of hearing and determining Causes between
man and man; and can belong to none, but him that hath the Power to
prescribe the Rules of Right and Wrong; that is, to make Laws; and with
the Sword of Justice to compell men to obey his Decisions, pronounced
either by himself, or by the Judges he ordaineth thereunto; which none can
lawfully do, but the Civill Soveraign.</p>
<p>Therefore when he alledgeth out of the 6 of Luke, that our Saviour called
his Disciples together, and chose twelve of them which he named Apostles,
he proveth that he Elected them (all, except Matthias, Paul and Barnabas,)
and gave them Power and Command to Preach, but not to Judge of Causes
between man and man: for that is a Power which he refused to take upon
himselfe, saying, “Who made me a Judge, or a Divider, amongst you?” and in
another place, “My Kingdome is not of this world.” But hee that hath not
the Power to hear, and determine Causes between man and man, cannot be
said to have any Jurisdiction at all. And yet this hinders not, but that
our Saviour gave them Power to Preach and Baptize in all parts of the
world, supposing they were not by their own lawfull Soveraign forbidden:
For to our own Soveraigns Christ himself, and his Apostles have in sundry
places expressely commanded us in all things to be obedient.</p>
<p>The arguments by which he would prove, that Bishops receive their
Jurisdiction from the Pope (seeing the Pope in the Dominions of other
Princes hath no Jurisdiction himself,) are all in vain. Yet because they
prove, on the contrary, that all Bishops receive Jurisdiction when they
have it from their Civill Soveraigns, I will not omit the recitall of
them.</p>
<p>The first, is from Numbers 11. where Moses not being able alone to
undergoe the whole burthen of administring the affairs of the People of
Israel, God commanded him to choose Seventy Elders, and took part of the
spirit of Moses, to put it upon those Seventy Elders: by which it is
understood, not that God weakened the spirit of Moses, for that had not
eased him at all; but that they had all of them their authority from him;
wherein he doth truly, and ingenuously interpret that place. But seeing
Moses had the entire Soveraignty in the Common-wealth of the Jews, it is
manifest, that it is thereby signified, that they had their Authority from
the Civill Soveraign: and therefore that place proveth, that Bishops in
every Christian Common-wealth have their Authority from the Civill
Soveraign; and from the Pope in his own Territories only, and not in the
Territories of any other State.</p>
<p>The second argument, is from the nature of Monarchy; wherein all Authority
is in one Man, and in others by derivation from him: But the Government of
the Church, he says, is Monarchicall. This also makes for Christian
Monarchs. For they are really Monarchs of their own people; that is, of
their own Church (for the Church is the same thing with a Christian
people;) whereas the Power of the Pope, though hee were S. Peter, is
neither Monarchy, nor hath any thing of Archicall, nor Craticall, but
onely of Didacticall; For God accepteth not a forced, but a willing
obedience.</p>
<p>The third, is, from that the Sea of S. Peter is called by S. Cyprian, the
Head, the Source, the Roote, the Sun, from whence the Authority of Bishops
is derived. But by the Law of Nature (which is a better Principle of Right
and Wrong, than the word of any Doctor that is but a man) the Civill
Soveraign in every Common-wealth, is the Head, the Source, the Root, and
the Sun, from which all Jurisdiction is derived. And therefore, the
Jurisdiction of Bishops, is derived from the Civill Soveraign.</p>
<p>The fourth, is taken from the Inequality of their Jurisdictions: For if
God (saith he) had given it them immediately, he had given aswell Equality
of Jurisdiction, as of Order: But wee see, some are Bishops but of own
Town, some of a hundred Towns, and some of many whole Provinces; which
differences were not determined by the command of God; their Jurisdiction
therefore is not of God, but of Man; and one has a greater, another a
lesse, as it pleaseth the Prince of the Church. Which argument, if he had
proved before, that the Pope had had an Universall Jurisdiction over all
Christians, had been for his purpose. But seeing that hath not been
proved, and that it is notoriously known, the large Jurisdiction of the
Pope was given him by those that had it, that is, by the Emperours of
Rome, (for the Patriarch of Constantinople, upon the same title, namely,
of being Bishop of the Capitall City of the Empire, and Seat of the
Emperour, claimed to be equal to him,) it followeth, that all other
Bishops have their Jurisdiction from the Soveraigns of the place wherein
they exercise the same: And as for that cause they have not their
Authority De Jure Divino; so neither hath the Pope his De Jure Divino,
except onely where hee is also the Civill Soveraign.</p>
<p>His fift argument is this, “If Bishops have their Jurisdiction immediately
from God, the Pope could not take it from them, for he can doe nothing
contrary to Gods ordination;” And this consequence is good, and well
proved. “But, (saith he) the Pope can do this, and has done it.” This also
is granted, so he doe it in his own Dominions, or in the Dominions of any
other Prince that hath given him that Power; but not universally, in Right
of the Popedome: For that power belongeth to every Christian Soveraign,
within the bounds of his owne Empire, and is inseparable from the
Soveraignty. Before the People of Israel had (by the commandment of God to
Samuel) set over themselves a King, after the manner of other Nations, the
High Priest had the Civill Government; and none but he could make, nor
depose an inferiour Priest: But that Power was afterwards in the King, as
may be proved by this same argument of Bellarmine; For if the Priest (be
he the High Priest or any other) had his Jurisdiction immediately from
God, then the King could not take it from him; “for he could do nothing
contrary to Gods ordinance: But it is certain, that King Solomon (1 Kings
2.26.) deprived Abiathar the High Priest of his office, and placed Zadok
(verse 35.) in his room. Kings therefore may in the like manner Ordaine,
and Deprive Bishops, as they shall thinke fit, for the well governing of
their Subjects.</p>
<p>His sixth argument is this, If Bishops have their Jurisdiction De Jure
Divino (that is, immediately from God,) they that maintaine it, should
bring some Word of God to prove it: But they can bring none. The argument
is good; I have therefore nothing to say against it. But it is an argument
no lesse good, to prove the Pope himself to have no Jurisdiction in the
Dominion of any other Prince.</p>
<p>Lastly, hee bringeth for argument, the testimony of two Popes, Innocent,
and Leo; and I doubt not but hee might have alledged, with as good reason,
the testimonies of all the Popes almost since S. Peter: For considering
the love of Power naturally implanted in mankind, whosoever were made
Pope, he would be tempted to uphold the same opinion. Neverthelesse, they
should therein but doe, as Innocent, and Leo did, bear witnesse of
themselves, and therefore their witness should not be good.</p>
<h3><SPAN name="link2H_4_0611" id="link2H_4_0611"></SPAN> Of The Popes Temporall Power </h3>
<p>In the fift Book he hath four Conclusions. The first is, “That the Pope in
not Lord of all the world:” the second, “that the Pope is not Lord of all
the Christian world:” The third, “That the Pope (without his owne
Territory) has not any Temporall Jurisdiction DIRECTLY:” These three
Conclusions are easily granted. The fourth is, “That the Pope has (in the
Dominions of other Princes) the Supreme Temporall Power INDIRECTLY:” which
is denyed; unlesse he mean by Indirectly, that he has gotten it by
Indirect means; then is that also granted. But I understand, that when he
saith he hath it Indirectly, he means, that such Temporall Jurisdiction
belongeth to him of Right, but that this Right is but a Consequence of his
Pastorall Authority, the which he could not exercise, unlesse he have the
other with it: And therefore to the Pastorall Power (which he calls
Spirituall) the Supreme Power Civill is necessarily annexed; and that
thereby hee hath a Right to change Kingdomes, giving them to one, and
taking them from another, when he shall think it conduces to the Salvation
of Souls.</p>
<p>Before I come to consider the Arguments by which hee would prove this
doctrine, it will not bee amisse to lay open the Consequences of it; that
Princes, and States, that have the Civill Soveraignty in their severall
Common-wealths, may bethink themselves, whether it bee convenient for
them, and conducing to the good of their Subjects, of whom they are to
give an account at the day of Judgment, to admit the same.</p>
<p>When it is said, the Pope hath not (in the Territories of other States)
the Supreme Civill Power Directly; we are to understand, he doth not
challenge it, as other Civill Soveraigns doe, from the originall
submission thereto of those that are to be governed. For it is evident,
and has already been sufficiently in this Treatise demonstrated, that the
Right of all Soveraigns, is derived originally from the consent of every
one of those that are to bee governed; whether they that choose him, doe
it for their common defence against an Enemy, as when they agree amongst
themselves to appoint a Man, or an Assembly of men to protect them; or
whether they doe it, to save their lives, by submission to a conquering
Enemy. The Pope therefore, when he disclaimeth the Supreme Civill Power
over other States Directly, denyeth no more, but that his Right cometh to
him by that way; He ceaseth not for all that, to claime it another way;
and that is, (without the consent of them that are to be governed) by a
Right given him by God, (which hee calleth Indirectly,) in his Assumption
to the Papacy. But by what way soever he pretend, the Power is the same;
and he may (if it bee granted to be his Right) depose Princes and States,
as often as it is for the Salvation of Soules, that is, as often as he
will; for he claimeth also the Sole Power to Judge, whether it be to the
salvation of mens Souls, or not. And this is the Doctrine, not onely that
Bellarmine here, and many other Doctors teach in their Sermons and Books,
but also that some Councells have decreed, and the Popes have decreed, and
the Popes have accordingly, when the occasion hath served them, put in
practise. For the fourth Councell of Lateran held under Pope Innocent the
third, (in the third Chap. De Haereticis,) hath this Canon. “If a King at
the Popes admonition, doe not purge his Kingdome of Haeretiques, and being
Excommunicate for the same, make not satisfaction within a year, his
subjects are absolved of their Obedience.” And the practise hereof hath
been seen on divers occasions; as in the Deposing of Chilperique, King of
France; in the Translation of the Roman Empire to Charlemaine; in the
Oppression of John King of England; in Transferring the Kingdome of
Navarre; and of late years, in the League against Henry the third of
France, and in many more occurrences. I think there be few Princes that
consider not this as Injust, and Inconvenient; but I wish they would all
resolve to be Kings, or Subjects. Men cannot serve two Masters: They ought
therefore to ease them, either by holding the Reins of Government wholly
in their own hands; or by wholly delivering them into the hands of the
Pope; that such men as are willing to be obedient, may be protected in
their obedience. For this distinction of Temporall, and Spirituall Power
is but words. Power is as really divided, and as dangerously to all
purposes, by sharing with another Indirect Power, as with a Direct one.
But to come now to his Arguments.</p>
<p>The first is this, “The Civill Power is subject to the Spirituall:
Therefore he that hath the Supreme Power Spirituall, hath right to command
Temporall Princes, and dispose of their Temporalls in order to the
Spirituall. As for the distinction of Temporall, and Spirituall, let us
consider in what sense it may be said intelligibly, that the Temporall, or
Civill Power is subject to the Spirituall. There be but two ways that
those words can be made sense. For when wee say, one Power is subject to
another Power, the meaning either is, that he which hath the one, is
subject to him that hath the other; or that the one Power is to the other,
as the means to the end. For wee cannot understand, that one Power hath
Power over another Power; and that one Power can have Right or Command
over another: For Subjection, Command, Right, and Power are accidents, not
of Powers, but of Persons: One Power may be subordinate to another, as the
art of a Sadler, to the art of a Rider. If then it be granted, that the
Civill Government be ordained as a means to bring us to a Spirituall
felicity; yet it does not follow, that if a King have the Civill Power,
and the Pope the Spirituall, that therefore the King is bound to obey the
Pope, more then every Sadler is bound to obey every Rider. Therefore as
from Subordination of an Art, cannot be inferred the Subjection of the
Professor; so from the Subordination of a Government, cannot be inferred
the Subjection of the Governor. When therefore he saith, the Civill Power
is Subject to the Spirituall, his meaning is, that the Civill Soveraign,
is Subject to the Spirituall Soveraign. And the Argument stands thus, “The
Civil Soveraign, is subject to the Spirituall; Therefore the Spirituall
Prince may command Temporall Princes.” Where the conclusion is the same,
with the Antecedent he should have proved. But to prove it, he alledgeth
first, this reason, “Kings and Popes, Clergy and Laity make but one
Common-wealth; that is to say, but one Church: And in all Bodies the
Members depend one upon another: But things Spirituall depend not of
things Temporall: Therefore, Temporall depend on Spirituall. And therefore
are Subject to them.” In which Argumentation there be two grosse errours:
one is, that all Christian Kings, Popes, Clergy, and all other Christian
men, make but one Common-wealth: For it is evident that France is one
Common-wealth, Spain another, and Venice a third, &c. And these
consist of Christians; and therefore also are severall Bodies of
Christians; that is to say, severall Churches: And their severall
Soveraigns Represent them, whereby they are capable of commanding and
obeying, of doing and suffering, as a natural man; which no Generall or
Universall Church is, till it have a Representant; which it hath not on
Earth: for if it had, there is no doubt but that all Christendome were one
Common-wealth, whose Soveraign were that Representant, both in things
Spirituall and Temporall: And the Pope, to make himself this Representant,
wanteth three things that our Saviour hath not given him, to Command, and
to Judge, and to Punish, otherwise than (by Excommunication) to run from
those that will not Learn of him: For though the Pope were Christs onely
Vicar, yet he cannot exercise his government, till our Saviours second
coming: And then also it is not the Pope, but St. Peter himselfe, with the
other Apostles, that are to be Judges of the world.</p>
<p>The other errour in this his first Argument is, that he sayes, the Members
of every Common-wealth, as of a naturall Body, depend one of another: It
is true, they cohaere together; but they depend onely on the Soveraign,
which is the Soul of the Common-wealth; which failing, the Common-wealth
is dissolved into a Civill war, no one man so much as cohaering to
another, for want of a common Dependance on a known Soveraign; Just as the
Members of the naturall Body dissolve into Earth, for want of a Soul to
hold them together. Therefore there is nothing in this similitude, from
whence to inferre a dependance of the Laity on the Clergy, or of the
Temporall Officers on the Spirituall; but of both on the Civill Soveraign;
which ought indeed to direct his Civill commands to the Salvation of
Souls; but is not therefore subject to any but God himselfe. And thus you
see the laboured fallacy of the first Argument, to deceive such men as
distinguish not between the Subordination of Actions in the way to the
End; and the Subjection of Persons one to another in the administration of
the Means. For to every End, the Means are determined by Nature, or by God
himselfe supernaturally: but the Power to make men use the Means, is in
every nation resigned (by the Law of Nature, which forbiddeth men to
violate their Faith given) to the Civill Soveraign.</p>
<p>His second Argument is this, “Every Common-wealth, (because it is supposed
to be perfect and sufficient in it self,) may command any other
Common-wealth, not subject to it, and force it to change the
administration of the Government, nay depose the Prince, and set another
in his room, if it cannot otherwise defend it selfe against the injuries
he goes about to doe them: much more may a Spirituall Common-wealth
command a Temporall one to change the administration of their Government,
and may depose Princes, and institute others, when they cannot otherwise
defend the Spirituall Good.”</p>
<p>That a Common-wealth, to defend it selfe against injuries, may lawfully
doe all that he hath here said, is very true; and hath already in that
which hath gone before been sufficiently demonstrated. And if it were also
true, that there is now in this world a Spirituall Common-wealth, distinct
from a Civill Common-wealth, then might the Prince thereof, upon injury
done him, or upon want of caution that injury be not done him in time to
come, repaire, and secure himself by Warre; which is in summe, deposing,
killing, or subduing, or doing any act of Hostility. But by the same
reason, it would be no lesse lawfull for a Civill Soveraign, upon the like
injuries done, or feared, to make warre upon the Spirituall Soveraign;
which I beleeve is more than Cardinall Bellarmine would have inferred from
his own proposition.</p>
<p>But Spirituall Common-wealth there is none in this world: for it is the
same thing with the Kingdome of Christ; which he himselfe saith, is not of
this world; but shall be in the next world, at the Resurrection, when they
that have lived justly, and beleeved that he was the Christ, shall (though
they died Naturall bodies) rise Spirituall bodies; and then it is, that
our Saviour shall judge the world, and conquer his Adversaries, and make a
Spirituall Common-wealth. In the mean time, seeing there are no men on
earth, whose bodies are Spirituall; there can be no Spirituall
Common-wealth amongst men that are yet in the flesh; unlesse wee call
Preachers, that have Commission to Teach, and prepare men for their
reception into the Kingdome of Christ at the Resurrection, a
Common-wealth; which I have proved to bee none.</p>
<p>The third Argument is this; “It is not lawfull for Christians to tolerate
an Infidel, or Haereticall King, in case he endeavour to draw them to his
Haeresie, or Infidelity. But to judge whether a King draw his subjects to
Haeresie, or not, belongeth to the Pope. Therefore hath the Pope Right, to
determine whether the Prince be to be deposed, or not deposed.”</p>
<p>To this I answer, that both these assertions are false. For Christians,
(or men of what Religion soever,) if they tolerate not their King,
whatsoever law hee maketh, though it bee concerning Religion, doe violate
their faith, contrary to the Divine Law, both Naturall and Positive: Nor
is there any Judge of Haeresie amongst Subjects, but their own Civill
Soveraign; for “Haeresie is nothing else, but a private opinion,
obstinately maintained, contrary to the opinion which the Publique Person
(that is to say, the Representant of the Common-wealth) hath commanded to
bee taught.” By which it is manifest, that an opinion publiquely appointed
to bee taught, cannot be Haeresie; nor the Soveraign Princes that
authorize them, Haeretiques. For Haeretiques are none but private men,
that stubbornly defend some Doctrine, prohibited by their lawful
Soveraigns.</p>
<p>But to prove that Christians are not to tolerate Infidell, or Haereticall
Kings, he alledgeth a place in Deut. 17. where God forbiddeth the Jews,
when they shall set a King over themselves, to choose a stranger; And from
thence inferreth, that it is unlawfull for a Christian, to choose a King,
that is not a Christian. And ’tis true, that he that is a Christian, that
is, hee that hath already obliged himself to receive our Saviour when he
shall come, for his King, shal tempt God too much in choosing for King in
this world, one that hee knoweth will endeavour, both by terrour, and
perswasion to make him violate his faith. But, it is (saith hee) the same
danger, to choose one that is not a Christian, for King, and not to depose
him, when hee is chosen. To this I say, the question is not of the danger
of not deposing; but of the Justice of deposing him. To choose him, may in
some cases bee unjust; but to depose him, when he is chosen, is in no case
Just. For it is alwaies violation of faith, and consequently against the
Law of Nature, which is the eternal Law of God. Nor doe wee read, that any
such Doctrine was accounted Christian in the time of the Apostles; nor in
the time of the Romane Emperours, till the Popes had the Civill
Soveraignty of Rome. But to this he hath replyed, that the Christians of
old, deposed not Nero, nor Diocletian, nor Julian, nor Valens an Arrian,
for this cause onely, that they wanted Temporall forces. Perhaps so. But
did our Saviour, who for calling for, might have had twelve Legions of
immortall, invulnerable Angels to assist him, want forces to depose
Caesar, or at least Pilate, that unjustly, without finding fault in him,
delivered him to the Jews to bee crucified? Or if the Apostles wanted
Temporall forces to depose Nero, was it therefore necessary for them in
their Epistles to the new made Christians, to teach them, (as they did) to
obey the Powers constituted over them, (whereof Nero in that time was
one,) and that they ought to obey them, not for fear of their wrath, but
for conscience sake? Shall we say they did not onely obey, but also teach
what they meant not, for want of strength? It is not therefore for want of
strength, but for conscience sake, that Christians are to tolerate their
Heathen Princes, or Princes (for I cannot call any one whose Doctrine is
the Publique Doctrine, an Haeretique) that authorize the teaching of an
Errour. And whereas for the Temporall Power of the Pope, he alledgeth
further, that St. Paul (1 Cor. 6.) appointed Judges under the Heathen
Princes of those times, such as were not ordained by those Princes; it is
not true. For St. Paul does but advise them, to take some of their
Brethren to compound their differences, as Arbitrators, rather than to goe
to law one with another before the Heathen Judges; which is a wholsome
Precept, and full of Charity, fit to bee practised also in the Best
Christian Common-wealths. And for the danger that may arise to Religion,
by the Subjects tolerating of an Heathen, or an Erring Prince, it is a
point, of which a Subject is no competent Judge; or if hee bee, the Popes
Temporall Subjects may judge also of the Popes Doctrine. For every
Christian Prince, as I have formerly proved, is no lesse Supreme Pastor of
his own Subjects, than the Pope of his.</p>
<p>The fourth Argument, is taken from the Baptisme of Kings; wherein, that
they may be made Christians they submit their Scepters to Christ; and
promise to keep, and defend the Christian Faith. This is true; for
Christian Kings are no more but Christs Subjects: but they may, for all
that, bee the Popes Fellowes; for they are Supreme Pastors of their own
Subjects; and the Pope is no more but King, and Pastor, even in Rome it
selfe.</p>
<p>The fifth Argument, is drawn from the words spoken by our Saviour, Feed My
Sheep; by which was give all Power necessary for a Pastor; as the Power to
chase away Wolves, such as are Haeretiques; the Power to shut up Rammes,
if they be mad, or push at the other Sheep with their Hornes, such as are
Evill (though Christian) Kings; and Power to give the Flock convenient
food: From whence hee inferreth, that St. Peter had these three Powers
given him by Christ. To which I answer, that the last of these Powers, is
no more than the Power, or rather Command to Teach. For the first, which
is to chase away Wolves, that is, Haeretiques, the place hee quoteth is
(Matth. 7.15.) “Beware of false Prophets which come to you in Sheeps
clothing, but inwardly are ravening Wolves.” But neither are Haeretiques
false Prophets, or at all Prophets: nor (admitting Haeretiques for the
Wolves there meant,) were the Apostles commanded to kill them, or if they
were Kings, to depose them; but to beware of, fly, and avoid them: nor was
it to St. Peter, nor to any of the Apostles, but to the multitude of the
Jews that followed him into the mountain, men for the most part not yet
converted, that hee gave this Counsell, to Beware of false Prophets: which
therefore if it conferre a Power of chasing away Kings, was given, not
onely to private men; but to men that were not at all Christians. And as
to the Power of Separating, and Shutting up of furious Rammes, (by which
hee meaneth Christian Kings that refuse to submit themselves to the Roman
Pastor,) our Saviour refused to take upon him that Power in this world
himself, but advised to let the Corn and Tares grow up together till the
day of Judgment: much lesse did hee give it to St. Peter, or can S. Peter
give it to the Popes. St. Peter, and all other Pastors, are bidden to
esteem those Christians that disobey the Church, that is, (that disobey
the Christian Soveraigne) as Heathen men, and as Publicans. Seeing then
men challenge to the Pope no authority over Heathen Princes, they ought to
challenge none over those that are to bee esteemed as Heathen.</p>
<p>But from the Power to Teach onely, hee inferreth also a Coercive Power in
the Pope, over Kings. The Pastor (saith he) must give his flock convenient
food: Therefore the Pope may, and ought to compell Kings to doe their
duty. Out of which it followeth, that the Pope, as Pastor of Christian
men, is King of Kings: which all Christian Kings ought indeed either to
Confesse, or else they ought to take upon themselves the Supreme Pastorall
Charge, every one in his own Dominion.</p>
<p>His sixth, and last Argument, is from Examples. To which I answer, first,
that Examples prove nothing; Secondly, that the Examples he alledgeth make
not so much as a probability of Right. The fact of Jehoiada, in Killing
Athaliah (2 Kings 11.) was either by the Authority of King Joash, or it
was a horrible Crime in the High Priest, which (ever after the election of
King Saul) was a mere Subject. The fact of St. Ambrose, in Excommunicating
Theodosius the Emperour, (if it were true hee did so,) was a Capitall
Crime. And for the Popes, Gregory 1. Greg. 2. Zachary, and Leo 3. their
Judgments are void, as given in their own Cause; and the Acts done by them
conformably to this Doctrine, are the greatest Crimes (especially that of
Zachary) that are incident to Humane Nature. And thus much of Power
Ecclesiasticall; wherein I had been more briefe, forbearing to examine
these Arguments of Bellarmine, if they had been his, as a Private man, and
not as the Champion of the Papacy, against all other Christian Princes,
and States.</p>
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