<p>I had always admired the genius of Glaucon and Adeimantus, but on hearing
these words I was quite delighted, and said: Sons of an illustrious
father, that was not a bad beginning of the Elegiac verses which the
admirer of Glaucon made in honour of you after you had distinguished
yourselves at the battle of Megara:—</p>
<p>'Sons of Ariston,' he sang, 'divine offspring of an illustrious hero.'</p>
<p>The epithet is very appropriate, for there is something truly divine in
being able to argue as you have done for the superiority of injustice, and
remaining unconvinced by your own arguments. And I do believe that you are
not convinced—this I infer from your general character, for had I
judged only from your speeches I should have mistrusted you. But now, the
greater my confidence in you, the greater is my difficulty in knowing what
to say. For I am in a strait between two; on the one hand I feel that I am
unequal to the task; and my inability is brought home to me by the fact
that you were not satisfied with the answer which I made to Thrasymachus,
proving, as I thought, the superiority which justice has over injustice.
And yet I cannot refuse to help, while breath and speech remain to me; I
am afraid that there would be an impiety in being present when justice is
evil spoken of and not lifting up a hand in her defence. And therefore I
had best give such help as I can.</p>
<p>Glaucon and the rest entreated me by all means not to let the question
drop, but to proceed in the investigation. They wanted to arrive at the
truth, first, about the nature of justice and injustice, and secondly,
about their relative advantages. I told them, what I really thought, that
the enquiry would be of a serious nature, and would require very good
eyes. Seeing then, I said, that we are no great wits, I think that we had
better adopt a method which I may illustrate thus; suppose that a
short-sighted person had been asked by some one to read small letters from
a distance; and it occurred to some one else that they might be found in
another place which was larger and in which the letters were larger—if
they were the same and he could read the larger letters first, and then
proceed to the lesser—this would have been thought a rare piece of
good fortune.</p>
<p>Very true, said Adeimantus; but how does the illustration apply to our
enquiry?</p>
<p>I will tell you, I replied; justice, which is the subject of our enquiry,
is, as you know, sometimes spoken of as the virtue of an individual, and
sometimes as the virtue of a State.</p>
<p>True, he replied.</p>
<p>And is not a State larger than an individual?</p>
<p>It is.</p>
<p>Then in the larger the quantity of justice is likely to be larger and more
easily discernible. I propose therefore that we enquire into the nature of
justice and injustice, first as they appear in the State, and secondly in
the individual, proceeding from the greater to the lesser and comparing
them.</p>
<p>That, he said, is an excellent proposal.</p>
<p>And if we imagine the State in process of creation, we shall see the
justice and injustice of the State in process of creation also.</p>
<p>I dare say.</p>
<p>When the State is completed there may be a hope that the object of our
search will be more easily discovered.</p>
<p>Yes, far more easily.</p>
<p>But ought we to attempt to construct one? I said; for to do so, as I am
inclined to think, will be a very serious task. Reflect therefore.</p>
<p>I have reflected, said Adeimantus, and am anxious that you should proceed.</p>
<p>A State, I said, arises, as I conceive, out of the needs of mankind; no
one is self-sufficing, but all of us have many wants. Can any other origin
of a State be imagined?</p>
<p>There can be no other.</p>
<p>Then, as we have many wants, and many persons are needed to supply them,
one takes a helper for one purpose and another for another; and when these
partners and helpers are gathered together in one habitation the body of
inhabitants is termed a State.</p>
<p>True, he said.</p>
<p>And they exchange with one another, and one gives, and another receives,
under the idea that the exchange will be for their good.</p>
<p>Very true.</p>
<p>Then, I said, let us begin and create in idea a State; and yet the true
creator is necessity, who is the mother of our invention.</p>
<p>Of course, he replied.</p>
<p>Now the first and greatest of necessities is food, which is the condition
of life and existence.</p>
<p>Certainly.</p>
<p>The second is a dwelling, and the third clothing and the like.</p>
<p>True.</p>
<p>And now let us see how our city will be able to supply this great demand:
We may suppose that one man is a husbandman, another a builder, some one
else a weaver—shall we add to them a shoemaker, or perhaps some
other purveyor to our bodily wants?</p>
<p>Quite right.</p>
<p>The barest notion of a State must include four or five men.</p>
<p>Clearly.</p>
<p>And how will they proceed? Will each bring the result of his labours into
a common stock?—the individual husbandman, for example, producing
for four, and labouring four times as long and as much as he need in the
provision of food with which he supplies others as well as himself; or
will he have nothing to do with others and not be at the trouble of
producing for them, but provide for himself alone a fourth of the food in
a fourth of the time, and in the remaining three fourths of his time be
employed in making a house or a coat or a pair of shoes, having no
partnership with others, but supplying himself all his own wants?</p>
<p>Adeimantus thought that he should aim at producing food only and not at
producing everything.</p>
<p>Probably, I replied, that would be the better way; and when I hear you say
this, I am myself reminded that we are not all alike; there are
diversities of natures among us which are adapted to different
occupations.</p>
<p>Very true.</p>
<p>And will you have a work better done when the workman has many
occupations, or when he has only one?</p>
<p>When he has only one.</p>
<p>Further, there can be no doubt that a work is spoilt when not done at the
right time?</p>
<p>No doubt.</p>
<p>For business is not disposed to wait until the doer of the business is at
leisure; but the doer must follow up what he is doing, and make the
business his first object.</p>
<p>He must.</p>
<p>And if so, we must infer that all things are produced more plentifully and
easily and of a better quality when one man does one thing which is
natural to him and does it at the right time, and leaves other things.</p>
<p>Undoubtedly.</p>
<p>Then more than four citizens will be required; for the husbandman will not
make his own plough or mattock, or other implements of agriculture, if
they are to be good for anything. Neither will the builder make his tools—and
he too needs many; and in like manner the weaver and shoemaker.</p>
<p>True.</p>
<p>Then carpenters, and smiths, and many other artisans, will be sharers in
our little State, which is already beginning to grow?</p>
<p>True.</p>
<p>Yet even if we add neatherds, shepherds, and other herdsmen, in order that
our husbandmen may have oxen to plough with, and builders as well as
husbandmen may have draught cattle, and curriers and weavers fleeces and
hides,—still our State will not be very large.</p>
<p>That is true; yet neither will it be a very small State which contains all
these.</p>
<p>Then, again, there is the situation of the city—to find a place
where nothing need be imported is wellnigh impossible.</p>
<p>Impossible.</p>
<p>Then there must be another class of citizens who will bring the required
supply from another city?</p>
<p>There must.</p>
<p>But if the trader goes empty-handed, having nothing which they require who
would supply his need, he will come back empty-handed.</p>
<p>That is certain.</p>
<p>And therefore what they produce at home must be not only enough for
themselves, but such both in quantity and quality as to accommodate those
from whom their wants are supplied.</p>
<p>Very true.</p>
<p>Then more husbandmen and more artisans will be required?</p>
<p>They will.</p>
<p>Not to mention the importers and exporters, who are called merchants?</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>Then we shall want merchants?</p>
<p>We shall.</p>
<p>And if merchandise is to be carried over the sea, skilful sailors will
also be needed, and in considerable numbers?</p>
<p>Yes, in considerable numbers.</p>
<p>Then, again, within the city, how will they exchange their productions? To
secure such an exchange was, as you will remember, one of our principal
objects when we formed them into a society and constituted a State.</p>
<p>Clearly they will buy and sell.</p>
<p>Then they will need a market-place, and a money-token for purposes of
exchange.</p>
<p>Certainly.</p>
<p>Suppose now that a husbandman, or an artisan, brings some production to
market, and he comes at a time when there is no one to exchange with him,—is
he to leave his calling and sit idle in the market-place?</p>
<p>Not at all; he will find people there who, seeing the want, undertake the
office of salesmen. In well-ordered states they are commonly those who are
the weakest in bodily strength, and therefore of little use for any other
purpose; their duty is to be in the market, and to give money in exchange
for goods to those who desire to sell and to take money from those who
desire to buy.</p>
<p>This want, then, creates a class of retail-traders in our State. Is not
'retailer' the term which is applied to those who sit in the market-place
engaged in buying and selling, while those who wander from one city to
another are called merchants?</p>
<p>Yes, he said.</p>
<p>And there is another class of servants, who are intellectually hardly on
the level of companionship; still they have plenty of bodily strength for
labour, which accordingly they sell, and are called, if I do not mistake,
hirelings, hire being the name which is given to the price of their
labour.</p>
<p>True.</p>
<p>Then hirelings will help to make up our population?</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>And now, Adeimantus, is our State matured and perfected?</p>
<p>I think so.</p>
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