<p>Now, then, if I have made myself clear, you will understand my original
meaning in what I said about relatives. My meaning was, that if one term
of a relation is taken alone, the other is taken alone; if one term is
qualified, the other is also qualified. I do not mean to say that
relatives may not be disparate, or that the science of health is healthy,
or of disease necessarily diseased, or that the sciences of good and evil
are therefore good and evil; but only that, when the term science is no
longer used absolutely, but has a qualified object which in this case is
the nature of health and disease, it becomes defined, and is hence called
not merely science, but the science of medicine.</p>
<p>I quite understand, and I think as you do.</p>
<p>Would you not say that thirst is one of these essentially relative terms,
having clearly a relation—</p>
<p>Yes, thirst is relative to drink.</p>
<p>And a certain kind of thirst is relative to a certain kind of drink; but
thirst taken alone is neither of much nor little, nor of good nor bad, nor
of any particular kind of drink, but of drink only?</p>
<p>Certainly.</p>
<p>Then the soul of the thirsty one, in so far as he is thirsty, desires only
drink; for this he yearns and tries to obtain it?</p>
<p>That is plain.</p>
<p>And if you suppose something which pulls a thirsty soul away from drink,
that must be different from the thirsty principle which draws him like a
beast to drink; for, as we were saying, the same thing cannot at the same
time with the same part of itself act in contrary ways about the same.</p>
<p>Impossible.</p>
<p>No more than you can say that the hands of the archer push and pull the
bow at the same time, but what you say is that one hand pushes and the
other pulls.</p>
<p>Exactly so, he replied.</p>
<p>And might a man be thirsty, and yet unwilling to drink?</p>
<p>Yes, he said, it constantly happens.</p>
<p>And in such a case what is one to say? Would you not say that there was
something in the soul bidding a man to drink, and something else
forbidding him, which is other and stronger than the principle which bids
him?</p>
<p>I should say so.</p>
<p>And the forbidding principle is derived from reason, and that which bids
and attracts proceeds from passion and disease?</p>
<p>Clearly.</p>
<p>Then we may fairly assume that they are two, and that they differ from one
another; the one with which a man reasons, we may call the rational
principle of the soul, the other, with which he loves and hungers and
thirsts and feels the flutterings of any other desire, may be termed the
irrational or appetitive, the ally of sundry pleasures and satisfactions?</p>
<p>Yes, he said, we may fairly assume them to be different.</p>
<p>Then let us finally determine that there are two principles existing in
the soul. And what of passion, or spirit? Is it a third, or akin to one of
the preceding?</p>
<p>I should be inclined to say—akin to desire.</p>
<p>Well, I said, there is a story which I remember to have heard, and in
which I put faith. The story is, that Leontius, the son of Aglaion, coming
up one day from the Piraeus, under the north wall on the outside, observed
some dead bodies lying on the ground at the place of execution. He felt a
desire to see them, and also a dread and abhorrence of them; for a time he
struggled and covered his eyes, but at length the desire got the better of
him; and forcing them open, he ran up to the dead bodies, saying, Look, ye
wretches, take your fill of the fair sight.</p>
<p>I have heard the story myself, he said.</p>
<p>The moral of the tale is, that anger at times goes to war with desire, as
though they were two distinct things.</p>
<p>Yes; that is the meaning, he said.</p>
<p>And are there not many other cases in which we observe that when a man's
desires violently prevail over his reason, he reviles himself, and is
angry at the violence within him, and that in this struggle, which is like
the struggle of factions in a State, his spirit is on the side of his
reason;—but for the passionate or spirited element to take part with
the desires when reason decides that she should not be opposed, is a sort
of thing which I believe that you never observed occurring in yourself,
nor, as I should imagine, in any one else?</p>
<p>Certainly not.</p>
<p>Suppose that a man thinks he has done a wrong to another, the nobler he is
the less able is he to feel indignant at any suffering, such as hunger, or
cold, or any other pain which the injured person may inflict upon him—these
he deems to be just, and, as I say, his anger refuses to be excited by
them.</p>
<p>True, he said.</p>
<p>But when he thinks that he is the sufferer of the wrong, then he boils and
chafes, and is on the side of what he believes to be justice; and because
he suffers hunger or cold or other pain he is only the more determined to
persevere and conquer. His noble spirit will not be quelled until he
either slays or is slain; or until he hears the voice of the shepherd,
that is, reason, bidding his dog bark no more.</p>
<p>The illustration is perfect, he replied; and in our State, as we were
saying, the auxiliaries were to be dogs, and to hear the voice of the
rulers, who are their shepherds.</p>
<p>I perceive, I said, that you quite understand me; there is, however, a
further point which I wish you to consider.</p>
<p>What point?</p>
<p>You remember that passion or spirit appeared at first sight to be a kind
of desire, but now we should say quite the contrary; for in the conflict
of the soul spirit is arrayed on the side of the rational principle.</p>
<p>Most assuredly.</p>
<p>But a further question arises: Is passion different from reason also, or
only a kind of reason; in which latter case, instead of three principles
in the soul, there will only be two, the rational and the concupiscent; or
rather, as the State was composed of three classes, traders, auxiliaries,
counsellors, so may there not be in the individual soul a third element
which is passion or spirit, and when not corrupted by bad education is the
natural auxiliary of reason?</p>
<p>Yes, he said, there must be a third.</p>
<p>Yes, I replied, if passion, which has already been shown to be different
from desire, turn out also to be different from reason.</p>
<p>But that is easily proved:—We may observe even in young children
that they are full of spirit almost as soon as they are born, whereas some
of them never seem to attain to the use of reason, and most of them late
enough.</p>
<p>Excellent, I said, and you may see passion equally in brute animals, which
is a further proof of the truth of what you are saying. And we may once
more appeal to the words of Homer, which have been already quoted by us,</p>
<p>'He smote his breast, and thus rebuked his soul,'</p>
<p>for in this verse Homer has clearly supposed the power which reasons about
the better and worse to be different from the unreasoning anger which is
rebuked by it.</p>
<p>Very true, he said.</p>
<p>And so, after much tossing, we have reached land, and are fairly agreed
that the same principles which exist in the State exist also in the
individual, and that they are three in number.</p>
<p>Exactly.</p>
<p>Must we not then infer that the individual is wise in the same way, and in
virtue of the same quality which makes the State wise?</p>
<p>Certainly.</p>
<p>Also that the same quality which constitutes courage in the State
constitutes courage in the individual, and that both the State and the
individual bear the same relation to all the other virtues?</p>
<p>Assuredly.</p>
<p>And the individual will be acknowledged by us to be just in the same way
in which the State is just?</p>
<p>That follows, of course.</p>
<p>We cannot but remember that the justice of the State consisted in each of
the three classes doing the work of its own class?</p>
<p>We are not very likely to have forgotten, he said.</p>
<p>We must recollect that the individual in whom the several qualities of his
nature do their own work will be just, and will do his own work?</p>
<p>Yes, he said, we must remember that too.</p>
<p>And ought not the rational principle, which is wise, and has the care of
the whole soul, to rule, and the passionate or spirited principle to be
the subject and ally?</p>
<p>Certainly.</p>
<p>And, as we were saying, the united influence of music and gymnastic will
bring them into accord, nerving and sustaining the reason with noble words
and lessons, and moderating and soothing and civilizing the wildness of
passion by harmony and rhythm?</p>
<p>Quite true, he said.</p>
<p>And these two, thus nurtured and educated, and having learned truly to
know their own functions, will rule over the concupiscent, which in each
of us is the largest part of the soul and by nature most insatiable of
gain; over this they will keep guard, lest, waxing great and strong with
the fulness of bodily pleasures, as they are termed, the concupiscent
soul, no longer confined to her own sphere, should attempt to enslave and
rule those who are not her natural-born subjects, and overturn the whole
life of man?</p>
<p>Very true, he said.</p>
<p>Both together will they not be the best defenders of the whole soul and
the whole body against attacks from without; the one counselling, and the
other fighting under his leader, and courageously executing his commands
and counsels?</p>
<p>True.</p>
<p>And he is to be deemed courageous whose spirit retains in pleasure and in
pain the commands of reason about what he ought or ought not to fear?</p>
<p>Right, he replied.</p>
<p>And him we call wise who has in him that little part which rules, and
which proclaims these commands; that part too being supposed to have a
knowledge of what is for the interest of each of the three parts and of
the whole?</p>
<p>Assuredly.</p>
<p>And would you not say that he is temperate who has these same elements in
friendly harmony, in whom the one ruling principle of reason, and the two
subject ones of spirit and desire are equally agreed that reason ought to
rule, and do not rebel?</p>
<p>Certainly, he said, that is the true account of temperance whether in the
State or individual.</p>
<p>And surely, I said, we have explained again and again how and by virtue of
what quality a man will be just.</p>
<p>That is very certain.</p>
<p>And is justice dimmer in the individual, and is her form different, or is
she the same which we found her to be in the State?</p>
<p>There is no difference in my opinion, he said.</p>
<p>Because, if any doubt is still lingering in our minds, a few commonplace
instances will satisfy us of the truth of what I am saying.</p>
<p>What sort of instances do you mean?</p>
<p>If the case is put to us, must we not admit that the just State, or the
man who is trained in the principles of such a State, will be less likely
than the unjust to make away with a deposit of gold or silver? Would any
one deny this?</p>
<p>No one, he replied.</p>
<p>Will the just man or citizen ever be guilty of sacrilege or theft, or
treachery either to his friends or to his country?</p>
<p>Never.</p>
<p>Neither will he ever break faith where there have been oaths or
agreements?</p>
<p>Impossible.</p>
<p>No one will be less likely to commit adultery, or to dishonour his father
and mother, or to fail in his religious duties?</p>
<p>No one.</p>
<p>And the reason is that each part of him is doing its own business, whether
in ruling or being ruled?</p>
<p>Exactly so.</p>
<p>Are you satisfied then that the quality which makes such men and such
states is justice, or do you hope to discover some other?</p>
<p>Not I, indeed.</p>
<p>Then our dream has been realized; and the suspicion which we entertained
at the beginning of our work of construction, that some divine power must
have conducted us to a primary form of justice, has now been verified?</p>
<p>Yes, certainly.</p>
<p>And the division of labour which required the carpenter and the shoemaker
and the rest of the citizens to be doing each his own business, and not
another's, was a shadow of justice, and for that reason it was of use?</p>
<p>Clearly.</p>
<p>But in reality justice was such as we were describing, being concerned
however, not with the outward man, but with the inward, which is the true
self and concernment of man: for the just man does not permit the several
elements within him to interfere with one another, or any of them to do
the work of others,—he sets in order his own inner life, and is his
own master and his own law, and at peace with himself; and when he has
bound together the three principles within him, which may be compared to
the higher, lower, and middle notes of the scale, and the intermediate
intervals—when he has bound all these together, and is no longer
many, but has become one entirely temperate and perfectly adjusted nature,
then he proceeds to act, if he has to act, whether in a matter of
property, or in the treatment of the body, or in some affair of politics
or private business; always thinking and calling that which preserves and
co-operates with this harmonious condition, just and good action, and the
knowledge which presides over it, wisdom, and that which at any time
impairs this condition, he will call unjust action, and the opinion which
presides over it ignorance.</p>
<p>You have said the exact truth, Socrates.</p>
<p>Very good; and if we were to affirm that we had discovered the just man
and the just State, and the nature of justice in each of them, we should
not be telling a falsehood?</p>
<p>Most certainly not.</p>
<p>May we say so, then?</p>
<p>Let us say so.</p>
<p>And now, I said, injustice has to be considered.</p>
<p>Clearly.</p>
<p>Must not injustice be a strife which arises among the three principles—a
meddlesomeness, and interference, and rising up of a part of the soul
against the whole, an assertion of unlawful authority, which is made by a
rebellious subject against a true prince, of whom he is the natural
vassal,—what is all this confusion and delusion but injustice, and
intemperance and cowardice and ignorance, and every form of vice?</p>
<p>Exactly so.</p>
<p>And if the nature of justice and injustice be known, then the meaning of
acting unjustly and being unjust, or, again, of acting justly, will also
be perfectly clear?</p>
<p>What do you mean? he said.</p>
<p>Why, I said, they are like disease and health; being in the soul just what
disease and health are in the body.</p>
<p>How so? he said.</p>
<p>Why, I said, that which is healthy causes health, and that which is
unhealthy causes disease.</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>And just actions cause justice, and unjust actions cause injustice?</p>
<p>That is certain.</p>
<p>And the creation of health is the institution of a natural order and
government of one by another in the parts of the body; and the creation of
disease is the production of a state of things at variance with this
natural order?</p>
<p>True.</p>
<p>And is not the creation of justice the institution of a natural order and
government of one by another in the parts of the soul, and the creation of
injustice the production of a state of things at variance with the natural
order?</p>
<p>Exactly so, he said.</p>
<p>Then virtue is the health and beauty and well-being of the soul, and vice
the disease and weakness and deformity of the same?</p>
<p>True.</p>
<p>And do not good practices lead to virtue, and evil practices to vice?</p>
<p>Assuredly.</p>
<p>Still our old question of the comparative advantage of justice and
injustice has not been answered: Which is the more profitable, to be just
and act justly and practise virtue, whether seen or unseen of gods and
men, or to be unjust and act unjustly, if only unpunished and unreformed?</p>
<p>In my judgment, Socrates, the question has now become ridiculous. We know
that, when the bodily constitution is gone, life is no longer endurable,
though pampered with all kinds of meats and drinks, and having all wealth
and all power; and shall we be told that when the very essence of the
vital principle is undermined and corrupted, life is still worth having to
a man, if only he be allowed to do whatever he likes with the single
exception that he is not to acquire justice and virtue, or to escape from
injustice and vice; assuming them both to be such as we have described?</p>
<p>Yes, I said, the question is, as you say, ridiculous. Still, as we are
near the spot at which we may see the truth in the clearest manner with
our own eyes, let us not faint by the way.</p>
<p>Certainly not, he replied.</p>
<p>Come up hither, I said, and behold the various forms of vice, those of
them, I mean, which are worth looking at.</p>
<p>I am following you, he replied: proceed.</p>
<p>I said, The argument seems to have reached a height from which, as from
some tower of speculation, a man may look down and see that virtue is one,
but that the forms of vice are innumerable; there being four special ones
which are deserving of note.</p>
<p>What do you mean? he said.</p>
<p>I mean, I replied, that there appear to be as many forms of the soul as
there are distinct forms of the State.</p>
<p>How many?</p>
<p>There are five of the State, and five of the soul, I said.</p>
<p>What are they?</p>
<p>The first, I said, is that which we have been describing, and which may be
said to have two names, monarchy and aristocracy, accordingly as rule is
exercised by one distinguished man or by many.</p>
<p>True, he replied.</p>
<p>But I regard the two names as describing one form only; for whether the
government is in the hands of one or many, if the governors have been
trained in the manner which we have supposed, the fundamental laws of the
State will be maintained.</p>
<p>That is true, he replied.</p>
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