<p>Are you not aware, I said, that the soul of man is immortal and
imperishable?</p>
<p>He looked at me in astonishment, and said: No, by heaven: And are you
really prepared to maintain this?</p>
<p>Yes, I said, I ought to be, and you too—there is no difficulty in
proving it.</p>
<p>I see a great difficulty; but I should like to hear you state this
argument of which you make so light.</p>
<p>Listen then.</p>
<p>I am attending.</p>
<p>There is a thing which you call good and another which you call evil?</p>
<p>Yes, he replied.</p>
<p>Would you agree with me in thinking that the corrupting and destroying
element is the evil, and the saving and improving element the good?</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>And you admit that every thing has a good and also an evil; as ophthalmia
is the evil of the eyes and disease of the whole body; as mildew is of
corn, and rot of timber, or rust of copper and iron: in everything, or in
almost everything, there is an inherent evil and disease?</p>
<p>Yes, he said.</p>
<p>And anything which is infected by any of these evils is made evil, and at
last wholly dissolves and dies?</p>
<p>True.</p>
<p>The vice and evil which is inherent in each is the destruction of each;
and if this does not destroy them there is nothing else that will; for
good certainly will not destroy them, nor again, that which is neither
good nor evil.</p>
<p>Certainly not.</p>
<p>If, then, we find any nature which having this inherent corruption cannot
be dissolved or destroyed, we may be certain that of such a nature there
is no destruction?</p>
<p>That may be assumed.</p>
<p>Well, I said, and is there no evil which corrupts the soul?</p>
<p>Yes, he said, there are all the evils which we were just now passing in
review: unrighteousness, intemperance, cowardice, ignorance.</p>
<p>But does any of these dissolve or destroy her?—and here do not let
us fall into the error of supposing that the unjust and foolish man, when
he is detected, perishes through his own injustice, which is an evil of
the soul. Take the analogy of the body: The evil of the body is a disease
which wastes and reduces and annihilates the body; and all the things of
which we were just now speaking come to annihilation through their own
corruption attaching to them and inhering in them and so destroying them.
Is not this true?</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>Consider the soul in like manner. Does the injustice or other evil which
exists in the soul waste and consume her? Do they by attaching to the soul
and inhering in her at last bring her to death, and so separate her from
the body?</p>
<p>Certainly not.</p>
<p>And yet, I said, it is unreasonable to suppose that anything can perish
from without through affection of external evil which could not be
destroyed from within by a corruption of its own?</p>
<p>It is, he replied.</p>
<p>Consider, I said, Glaucon, that even the badness of food, whether
staleness, decomposition, or any other bad quality, when confined to the
actual food, is not supposed to destroy the body; although, if the badness
of food communicates corruption to the body, then we should say that the
body has been destroyed by a corruption of itself, which is disease,
brought on by this; but that the body, being one thing, can be destroyed
by the badness of food, which is another, and which does not engender any
natural infection—this we shall absolutely deny?</p>
<p>Very true.</p>
<p>And, on the same principle, unless some bodily evil can produce an evil of
the soul, we must not suppose that the soul, which is one thing, can be
dissolved by any merely external evil which belongs to another?</p>
<p>Yes, he said, there is reason in that.</p>
<p>Either, then, let us refute this conclusion, or, while it remains
unrefuted, let us never say that fever, or any other disease, or the knife
put to the throat, or even the cutting up of the whole body into the
minutest pieces, can destroy the soul, until she herself is proved to
become more unholy or unrighteous in consequence of these things being
done to the body; but that the soul, or anything else if not destroyed by
an internal evil, can be destroyed by an external one, is not to be
affirmed by any man.</p>
<p>And surely, he replied, no one will ever prove that the souls of men
become more unjust in consequence of death.</p>
<p>But if some one who would rather not admit the immortality of the soul
boldly denies this, and says that the dying do really become more evil and
unrighteous, then, if the speaker is right, I suppose that injustice, like
disease, must be assumed to be fatal to the unjust, and that those who
take this disorder die by the natural inherent power of destruction which
evil has, and which kills them sooner or later, but in quite another way
from that in which, at present, the wicked receive death at the hands of
others as the penalty of their deeds?</p>
<p>Nay, he said, in that case injustice, if fatal to the unjust, will not be
so very terrible to him, for he will be delivered from evil. But I rather
suspect the opposite to be the truth, and that injustice which, if it have
the power, will murder others, keeps the murderer alive—aye, and
well awake too; so far removed is her dwelling-place from being a house of
death.</p>
<p>True, I said; if the inherent natural vice or evil of the soul is unable
to kill or destroy her, hardly will that which is appointed to be the
destruction of some other body, destroy a soul or anything else except
that of which it was appointed to be the destruction.</p>
<p>Yes, that can hardly be.</p>
<p>But the soul which cannot be destroyed by an evil, whether inherent or
external, must exist for ever, and if existing for ever, must be immortal?</p>
<p>Certainly.</p>
<p>That is the conclusion, I said; and, if a true conclusion, then the souls
must always be the same, for if none be destroyed they will not diminish
in number. Neither will they increase, for the increase of the immortal
natures must come from something mortal, and all things would thus end in
immortality.</p>
<p>Very true.</p>
<p>But this we cannot believe—reason will not allow us—any more
than we can believe the soul, in her truest nature, to be full of variety
and difference and dissimilarity.</p>
<p>What do you mean? he said.</p>
<p>The soul, I said, being, as is now proven, immortal, must be the fairest
of compositions and cannot be compounded of many elements?</p>
<p>Certainly not.</p>
<p>Her immortality is demonstrated by the previous argument, and there are
many other proofs; but to see her as she really is, not as we now behold
her, marred by communion with the body and other miseries, you must
contemplate her with the eye of reason, in her original purity; and then
her beauty will be revealed, and justice and injustice and all the things
which we have described will be manifested more clearly. Thus far, we have
spoken the truth concerning her as she appears at present, but we must
remember also that we have seen her only in a condition which may be
compared to that of the sea-god Glaucus, whose original image can hardly
be discerned because his natural members are broken off and crushed and
damaged by the waves in all sorts of ways, and incrustations have grown
over them of seaweed and shells and stones, so that he is more like some
monster than he is to his own natural form. And the soul which we behold
is in a similar condition, disfigured by ten thousand ills. But not there,
Glaucon, not there must we look.</p>
<p>Where then?</p>
<p>At her love of wisdom. Let us see whom she affects, and what society and
converse she seeks in virtue of her near kindred with the immortal and
eternal and divine; also how different she would become if wholly
following this superior principle, and borne by a divine impulse out of
the ocean in which she now is, and disengaged from the stones and shells
and things of earth and rock which in wild variety spring up around her
because she feeds upon earth, and is overgrown by the good things of this
life as they are termed: then you would see her as she is, and know
whether she have one shape only or many, or what her nature is. Of her
affections and of the forms which she takes in this present life I think
that we have now said enough.</p>
<p>True, he replied.</p>
<p>And thus, I said, we have fulfilled the conditions of the argument; we
have not introduced the rewards and glories of justice, which, as you were
saying, are to be found in Homer and Hesiod; but justice in her own nature
has been shown to be best for the soul in her own nature. Let a man do
what is just, whether he have the ring of Gyges or not, and even if in
addition to the ring of Gyges he put on the helmet of Hades.</p>
<p>Very true.</p>
<p>And now, Glaucon, there will be no harm in further enumerating how many
and how great are the rewards which justice and the other virtues procure
to the soul from gods and men, both in life and after death.</p>
<p>Certainly not, he said.</p>
<p>Will you repay me, then, what you borrowed in the argument?</p>
<p>What did I borrow?</p>
<p>The assumption that the just man should appear unjust and the unjust just:
for you were of opinion that even if the true state of the case could not
possibly escape the eyes of gods and men, still this admission ought to be
made for the sake of the argument, in order that pure justice might be
weighed against pure injustice. Do you remember?</p>
<p>I should be much to blame if I had forgotten.</p>
<p>Then, as the cause is decided, I demand on behalf of justice that the
estimation in which she is held by gods and men and which we acknowledge
to be her due should now be restored to her by us; since she has been
shown to confer reality, and not to deceive those who truly possess her,
let what has been taken from her be given back, that so she may win that
palm of appearance which is hers also, and which she gives to her own.</p>
<p>The demand, he said, is just.</p>
<p>In the first place, I said—and this is the first thing which you
will have to give back—the nature both of the just and unjust is
truly known to the gods.</p>
<p>Granted.</p>
<p>And if they are both known to them, one must be the friend and the other
the enemy of the gods, as we admitted from the beginning?</p>
<p>True.</p>
<p>And the friend of the gods may be supposed to receive from them all things
at their best, excepting only such evil as is the necessary consequence of
former sins?</p>
<p>Certainly.</p>
<p>Then this must be our notion of the just man, that even when he is in
poverty or sickness, or any other seeming misfortune, all things will in
the end work together for good to him in life and death: for the gods have
a care of any one whose desire is to become just and to be like God, as
far as man can attain the divine likeness, by the pursuit of virtue?</p>
<p>Yes, he said; if he is like God he will surely not be neglected by him.</p>
<p>And of the unjust may not the opposite be supposed?</p>
<p>Certainly.</p>
<p>Such, then, are the palms of victory which the gods give the just?</p>
<p>That is my conviction.</p>
<p>And what do they receive of men? Look at things as they really are, and
you will see that the clever unjust are in the case of runners, who run
well from the starting-place to the goal but not back again from the goal:
they go off at a great pace, but in the end only look foolish, slinking
away with their ears draggling on their shoulders, and without a crown;
but the true runner comes to the finish and receives the prize and is
crowned. And this is the way with the just; he who endures to the end of
every action and occasion of his entire life has a good report and carries
off the prize which men have to bestow.</p>
<p>True.</p>
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