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<h2> IMMORTALITY:<SPAN href="#linknote-22" name="linknoteref-22" id="linknoteref-22">22</SPAN> A DIALOGUE. </h2>
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22 (<SPAN href="#linknoteref-22">return</SPAN>)<br/> [ <i>Translator's Note</i>.—The
word immortality—<i>Unsterblichkeit</i>—does not occur in the
original; nor would it, in its usual application, find a place in
Schopenhauer's vocabulary. The word he uses is <i>Unzerstörbarkeit—indestructibility</i>.
But I have preferred <i>immortality</i>, because that word is commonly
associated with the subject touched upon in this little debate. If any
critic doubts the wisdom of this preference, let me ask him to try his
hand at a short, concise, and, at the same time, popularly intelligible
rendering of the German original, which runs thus: <i>Zur Lehre von der
Unzerstörbarkeit unseres wahren Wesens durch den Tod: Meine dialogische
Schlussbelustigung</i>.]</p>
<h3> THRASYMACHOS—PHILALETHES. </h3>
<p><i>Thrasymachos</i>. Tell me now, in one word, what shall I be after my
death? And mind you be clear and precise.</p>
<p><i>Philalethes</i>. All and nothing!</p>
<p><i>Thrasymachos</i>. I thought so! I gave you a problem, and you solve it
by a contradiction. That's a very stale trick.</p>
<p><i>Philalethes</i>. Yes, but you raise transcendental questions, and you
expect me to answer them in language that is only made for immanent
knowledge. It's no wonder that a contradiction ensues.</p>
<p><i>Thrasymachos</i>. What do you mean by transcendental questions and
immanent knowledge? I've heard these expressions before, of course; they
are not new to me. The Professor was fond of using them, but only as
predicates of the Deity, and he never talked of anything else; which was
all quite right and proper. He argued thus: if the Deity was in the world
itself, he was immanent; if he was somewhere outside it, he was
transcendent. Nothing could be clearer and more obvious! You knew where
you were. But this Kantian rigmarole won't do any more: it's antiquated
and no longer applicable to modern ideas. Why, we've had a whole row of
eminent men in the metropolis of German learning—</p>
<p><i>Philalethes</i>. (Aside.) German humbug, he means.</p>
<p><i>Thrasymachos</i>. The mighty Schleiermacher, for instance, and that
gigantic intellect, Hegel; and at this time of day we've abandoned that
nonsense. I should rather say we're so far beyond it that we can't put up
with it any more. What's the use of it then? What does it all mean?</p>
<p><i>Philalethes</i>. Transcendental knowledge is knowledge which passes
beyond the bounds of possible experience, and strives to determine the
nature of things as they are in themselves. Immanent knowledge, on the
other hand, is knowledge which confines itself entirely with those bounds;
so that it cannot apply to anything but actual phenomena. As far as you
are an individual, death will be the end of you. But your individuality is
not your true and inmost being: it is only the outward manifestation of
it. It is not the <i>thing-in-itself</i>, but only the phenomenon
presented in the form of time; and therefore with a beginning and an end.
But your real being knows neither time, nor beginning, nor end, nor yet
the limits of any given individual. It is everywhere present in every
individual; and no individual can exist apart from it. So when death
comes, on the one hand you are annihilated as an individual; on the other,
you are and remain everything. That is what I meant when I said that after
your death you would be all and nothing. It is difficult to find a more
precise answer to your question and at the same time be brief. The answer
is contradictory, I admit; but it is so simply because your life is in
time, and the immortal part of you in eternity. You may put the matter
thus: Your immortal part is something that does not last in time and yet
is indestructible; but there you have another contradiction! You see what
happens by trying to bring the transcendental within the limits of
immanent knowledge. It is in some sort doing violence to the latter by
misusing it for ends it was never meant to serve.</p>
<p><i>Thrasymachos</i>. Look here, I shan't give twopence for your
immortality unless I'm to remain an individual.</p>
<p><i>Philalethes</i>. Well, perhaps I may be able to satisfy you on this
point. Suppose I guarantee that after death you shall remain an
individual, but only on condition that you first spend three months of
complete unconsciousness.</p>
<p><i>Thrasymachos</i>. I shall have no objection to that.</p>
<p><i>Philalethes</i>. But remember, if people are completely unconscious,
they take no account of time. So, when you are dead, it's all the same to
you whether three months pass in the world of consciousness, or ten
thousand years. In the one case as in the other, it is simply a matter of
believing what is told you when you awake. So far, then, you can afford to
be indifferent whether it is three months or ten thousand years that pass
before you recover your individuality.</p>
<p><i>Thrasymachos</i>. Yes, if it comes to that, I suppose you're right.</p>
<p><i>Philalethes</i>. And if by chance, after those ten thousand years have
gone by, no one ever thinks of awakening you, I fancy it would be no great
misfortune. You would have become quite accustomed to non-existence after
so long a spell of it—following upon such a very few years of life.
At any rate you may be sure you would be perfectly ignorant of the whole
thing. Further, if you knew that the mysterious power which keeps you in
your present state of life had never once ceased in those ten thousand
years to bring forth other phenomena like yourself, and to endow them with
life, it would fully console you.</p>
<p><i>Thrasymachos</i>. Indeed! So you think you're quietly going to do me
out of my individuality with all this fine talk. But I'm up to your
tricks. I tell you I won't exist unless I can have my individuality. I'm
not going to be put off with 'mysterious powers,' and what you call
'phenomena.' I can't do without my individuality, and I won't give it up.</p>
<p><i>Philalethes</i>. You mean, I suppose, that your individuality is such a
delightful thing, so splendid, so perfect, and beyond compare—that
you can't imagine anything better. Aren't you ready to exchange your
present state for one which, if we can judge by what is told us, may
possibly be superior and more endurable?</p>
<p><i>Thrasymachos</i>. Don't you see that my individuality, be it what it
may, is my very self? To me it is the most important thing in the world.</p>
<p><i>For God is God and I am I</i>.<br/></p>
<p><i>I</i> want to exist, <i>I, I</i>. That's the main thing. I don't care
about an existence which has to be proved to be mine, before I can believe
it.</p>
<p><i>Philalethes</i>. Think what you're doing! When you say <i>I, I, I</i>
want to exist, it is not you alone that says this. Everything says it,
absolutely everything that has the faintest trace of consciousness. It
follows, then, that this desire of yours is just the part of you that is
<i>not individual</i>—the part that is common to all things without
distinction. It is the cry, not of the individual, but of existence
itself; it is the intrinsic element in everything that exists, nay, it is
the cause of anything existing at all. This desire craves for, and so is
satisfied with, nothing less than existence in general—not any
definite individual existence. No! that is not its aim. It seems to be so
only because this desire—this <i>Will</i>—attains
consciousness only in the individual, and therefore looks as though it
were concerned with nothing but the individual. There lies the illusion—an
illusion, it is true, in which the individual is held fast: but, if he
reflects, he can break the fetters and set himself free. It is only
indirectly, I say, that the individual has this violent craving for
existence. It is <i>the Will to Live</i> which is the real and direct
aspirant—alike and identical in all things. Since, then, existence
is the free work, nay, the mere reflection of the will, where existence
is, there, too, must be will; and for the moment the will finds its
satisfaction in existence itself; so far, I mean, as that which never
rests, but presses forward eternally, can ever find any satisfaction at
all. The will is careless of the individual: the individual is not its
business; although, as I have said, this seems to be the case, because the
individual has no direct consciousness of will except in himself. The
effect of this is to make the individual careful to maintain his own
existence; and if this were not so, there would be no surety for the
preservation of the species. From all this it is clear that individuality
is not a form of perfection, but rather of limitation; and so to be freed
from it is not loss but gain. Trouble yourself no more about the matter.
Once thoroughly recognize what you are, what your existence really is,
namely, the universal will to live, and the whole question will seem to
you childish, and most ridiculous!</p>
<p><i>Thrasymachos</i>. You're childish yourself and most ridiculous, like
all philosophers! and if a man of my age lets himself in for a
quarter-of-an-hour's talk with such fools, it is only because it amuses me
and passes the time. I've more important business to attend to, so
Good-bye.</p>
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